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hello my friends this is Dr beader in

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I never got any money from you

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you have all my just as well stand for

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unprecedented Financial opportunity

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be normal

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this is the saucer life a podcast in

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which we examine Concepts events or

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people orbiting the world of flying

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saucers few preconceptions snark when

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Justified no belief no debunking today

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we're going to look at one of the

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one of the key conspiratorial figures of

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the mid to late 1970s into the early

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1980s and he's somebody who you might

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not have heard about or if you've heard

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about him you might not have read his

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material or listened to the

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nearly a hundred audio cassettes that he

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sent out over his career to his fever

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pitch fanatical listening audience but

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his name is Dr Peter David beader and he

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is a fascinating figure and this was a

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listener request and I've been wanting

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to cover Dr beader for a while and I

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also knew that after the the Epic Bill

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Moore mufon speech episode last time

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that I was be looking for something a

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little light-hearted

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simpler straightforward although it it

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really isn't I think shorter is the word

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I'm looking for here really so uh Dr

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beader Dr Peter beater let's go

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I probably shouldn't say Dr Peter Peter

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too often because I don't want the show

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to get flagged as explicit or be

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considered anything other than roughly

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family friendly so before we get into Dr

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Peter and his ideas we need to do a

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little bit of background on

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anti-communist conspiracy theories and

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in the Cold War

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um it's fun it's fun really so

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in 1964 a book came out by a man named

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John Stormer called none dare call it

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treason and it became a classic of

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anti-communist conspiracism now to be

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clear I I need to make clear that by

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anti-communist conspiracism I I don't

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mean a sort of late 40s early 50s

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concerned that there were literal

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communist spies operating Espionage

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networks in the United States because

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there had been and although by the time

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of the mccarthiest sort of witch hunts a

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lot of those those things have been kind

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of cleared up already

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um you know that that's a different sort

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of paranoia than the more sort of

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conspiracy theory-ish paranoia that

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would emerge later so in his book none

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dare call it treason

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Stormer asserted that the growth of the

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communist-controlled world had led to in

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his words the hidden tentacles of the

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Communist conspiracy exerting unmeasured

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influence over the rest of the world and

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Stormer argued that a number of factors

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contributed to a sense that the Soviet

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anti-communist sentiments since the

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United Nations and a lack of public

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information and education about the

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goals of international communism now

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these things Stormer argued paved the

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way for a slow but steady communist

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all fit this question divides many

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conservatives they waste time and effort

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and split their ranks with a senseless

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debate it doesn't really matter whether

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the parts have been planned for an

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assembly line Revolution or if they're

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the work of well-meaning but misguided

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so in something that is actually kind of

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unusual for a lot of conspiracy

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theorists Stormer is not concerned about

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the actual nature of the conspiracy for

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for him spending time on determining how

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exactly any conspiracy might work takes

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actual problem going on the actual

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communist influence around the world and

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in the United States which he sort of

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um treaties that are not properly

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United States at a disadvantage and

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things like uh foreign aid and things

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like that so in something that is

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actually kind of unusual for a lot of

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conspiracy theorists Stormer is not

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the actual nature of the conspiracy for

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for him spending time on determining how

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exactly any conspiracy might work takes

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valuable time and resources away from

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actual problem going on the actual

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communist influence around the world and

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in the United States which he sort of

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summarizes as things like sort of

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manufactured fake inflation to keep

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people poor

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um treaties that are not properly

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United States at a disadvantage and

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things like uh foreign aid and things

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the detailed nature of the apparent

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conspiracy in 1971 oh I should say I

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John stormer's book none dare call it

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treason was the first Conspiracy Theory

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of a beat up paperback and I remember

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um so a lot of the stuff he said about

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communism you know being being

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triumphant and invading the United

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States you had you know begun to ring

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very Hollow by then so I didn't find it

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so anyway in 1971 Gary Allen wrote a

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book that sort of ripped off stormer's

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book tile he called it none dare call it

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conspiracy and it focuses more

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extensively on what would become within

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tropes of a Central Banking conspiracy

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families and JP Morgan as key figures in

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System long a bug bear of uh conspiracy

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thinkers Alan also adhered to a more

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conspiratorial view of History than

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are the conspiracy Allen focuses on the

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ostensible goal is to destroy them while

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caviar to their guests in their summer

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enslaving and murdering people and you

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surprising to learn that there is on the

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Relations this group calls itself the

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Builder Burgers if scarcely one American

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and a thousand has any familiarity with

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the CFR it is doubtful that one in five

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insiders the Council on Foreign

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these interface with American policy

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enslave us all Allen observes that

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prominent members of both the Republican

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corporations giving lie to the supposed

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about it's a uniparty there's no

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difference between the two parties this

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complaint a key part of this entire

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family from its roots with John D

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Rockefeller whom Alan connects with JP

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politicians like Nelson Rockefeller and

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so what he does and this is a pretty

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popular book this wasn't you know

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something just just sold at gun shows

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and and like in back alleys people are

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able to become their own conspiracy

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theorists in their own living rooms they

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could keep track of who is doing what

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Watergate scandal happens and Nixon

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president who does he appoint and who

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does the senate confirm as the new vice

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president Nelson Rockefeller so you know

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people are paying attention to these

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things and into this milieu Comes Peter

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he he's an interesting guy he might have

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been considered one of these insiders at

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um this is the bio from the Peter

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davidbeader.com website which still

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exists and is a fantastic Resource as

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long as all you're looking for is stuff

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export import Bank of Washington a

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candidate for the governorship of West

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Virginia co-founded so desmir a mineral

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exploration company in Zaire he

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Franz pick Edward Darrell Colonel Curtis

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Dahl Norman Dodd Emmanuel Josephson and

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many others he wrote prolifically

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including his book conspiracy against

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the dollar through his tapes Peter

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influenced various people such as the

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1980s punk band The Wanderers in the

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controversial Crusaders comic book

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series published by Jack T chick double

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cross Alberto part two Peter Peter is

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cited as a reliable Authority on why the

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body account changed in the wake of the

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Dr Peter's doctorate was legitimate in

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the sense that he had a Juris doctor

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degree meaning he had been to law school

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generally lawyers with a JD are not

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referred to as doctor but sometimes they

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do because it kind of boosts their their

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profile a bit and also because we won't

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get to every one of Dr Peter's ideas

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here his theory or his the reference to

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the Jonestown Massacre he said that it

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was staged to camouflage a joint U.S

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Israeli military operation to take out a

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Soviet missile base in Guiana the the

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people who were killed at Jonestown were

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not part of any sort of death cult

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rather those were the bodies of

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everybody killed in the raid and this

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was a a scam to prevent people from

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knowing about the Soviet missile base

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Peter believed that the Western

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Hemisphere was filled with secret Soviet

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nuclear missile bases all aimed at the

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United States that the Insiders were not

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telling us about because it was part of

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the Rockefeller plan to eventually

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destroy America

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his book conspiracy against the dollar

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basically

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the 1970s ask your parents kids

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um on the manipulation of gold and the

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actual sort of stealing of gold from the

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United States who stole the gold from

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the United States oh the Rockefeller

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family of course this was detailed in a

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newspaper article the California Desert

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Sun the October 7th

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1974 Edition there's an article about

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basically how the Rockefeller nobody

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likes the Rockefellers is basically the

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one Rockefeller detractor Peter Peter

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even charged that the golden Fort Knox

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had been Spirited Away in the dead of

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night only to wind up in the European

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vaults of David Rockefeller this charge

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was proved to be erroneous as Mary T

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Brooks director of the U.S mint

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conducted a group of congressmen on a

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rare visit to the Kentucky vaults yes

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Peter wood may be predictably claimed

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that this proved nothing because he was

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very mysteriously and suspiciously not

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allowed to go along on the inspection of

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the Fort Knox vaults so Dr beader would

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communicate with his followers his I

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don't want to say disciples but the

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people who paid attention to him through

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audio tapes these were a thing that used

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to exist and still do they're making a

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comeback which is deeply stupid it's not

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like vinyl vinyl had a distinct sound

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that was pleasant cassette tapes were

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stupid and anyway

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um Dr beater

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sent out tapes usually monthly but not

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always sometimes he would be waylaid by

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illness or conspirators or something but

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this is how his first audio letter began

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hello my friends

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this is Dr Peter speaking

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today is June 21 1975.

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and this is my monthly audio letter

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number one

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a lot of things have been happening

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lately they'll probably have you

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concerned and puzzled

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things like the Maya gas affair

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the prospect of financial collapse of

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New York City with Domino effects

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throughout the economy and so on

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and all these things are important

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but what I hope to do in my monthly

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reports to you

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is to try to focus your attention

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squarely on the most basic developments

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understanding these most basic matters

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will I believe

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enable you increasingly to grasp the

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significance of details in the news

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yourself

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and once the American public can see

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through the daily diet of clever subtle

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propaganda which is served up by the

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major media as news when it really is

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not news at all then The Jig will be up

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for those who are trying to take our

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country and our freedom away from us

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in this audio letter

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I therefore want to discuss just three

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topics

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one an important matter concerning

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evidence in the Fort Knox gold scandal

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two recent indications from President

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Ford that the plans for economic

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depression and dictatorship in America

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are still on track

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and an introduction to our next

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president

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and would be dictator

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Nelson Holdridge Rockefeller this is a

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pretty good sampling of the types of

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topics he covered especially early on in

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the series of audio letters there were

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there was Nelson Rockefeller is going to

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be a dictator there's an economic

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collapse and something about Fort Knox

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my favorite Peter beater Fort Knox

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theory is that there was a plan to use

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nuclear material to irradiate the gold

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in Fort Knox to crash the economy yes

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that is remarkably similar to aspects of

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the plot of the Bond film and novel

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Goldfinger

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so how is this economic crash

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Rockefeller takeover supposed to work

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this plan is for the United States to be

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manipulated

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into terrible economic Straits by

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election day 1976.

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so as to complete the collapse of

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confidence in our free way of life

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that has been fostered increasingly

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through educational and other means for

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decades

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on Election Day 1976

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we are to vote among other things in a

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referendum

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not a customary procedure at all here in

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America

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to scrap our present Constitution

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and accept a new one in its Stead

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the new constitution

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which is to be the subject of an audio

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book I plan to take soon

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has already been written and would

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totally reorganize our government along

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totalitarian lines and abolish Free

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Enterprise

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in favor of total governmental control

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and regulation so as you may know Nelson

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Rockefeller never became president he

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was Gerald Ford's vice president during

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Gerald Ford's term and actually

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Rockefeller didn't even survive

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politically to be

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Ford's running mate when he ran in 1976

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Ford went with uh went with Bob Dole so

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Jimmy Carter gets elected in 1976 what's

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the deal with that why would Jimmy

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Carter be president when the

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Rockefellers are in control well because

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the Rockefellers were controlling Jimmy

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Carter obviously who was Carter's key

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foreign policy advisor that's right a

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guy named Brzezinski

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what does Brzezinski do in his spare

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time he's the director of the powerful

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trilateral Commission on behalf of David

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Rockefeller so

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you know the Rockefellers are behind

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everything but one of the things I like

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about beaters tapes is that he always

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lays out at the beginning after a little

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introduction three things he's going to

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talk about here's some examples of those

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three things

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my three topics today are

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topic number one

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conspiracy for economic destruction

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topic number two

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conspiracy for political destruction

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and topic number three

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conspiracy to achieve destruction of

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human lives now unless you think this is

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all just sort of political and

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especially economic conspiracy I'm going

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to look at two topics in particular that

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Peter became probably the most well

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known for if anybody knows about Dr

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Peter they look at two things the first

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is something called the battle of the

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Harvest Moon

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and the second is something called The

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War of the doubles or the topic of

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organic robotoids and we're going to

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look at those two things after our break

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every month recently we've done some

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watch alongs of classic episodes of the

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looked at what happens when you ask chat

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GPT to invent a contact e story if

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pushing 200 of them so far it's it's

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it's it's gotten out of control and as

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always we're on Twitter and Instagram at

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48480 and one of the things we would

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like always in correspondence is

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feedback on the most recent episode

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which we sort of go over uh here during

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the Midway segment of the show and we

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got a lot of feedback from our mufon89

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episode so uh let's uh let's get into

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that and I did ask uh if for people to

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if they liked let us know what they

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would have done if they were in uh Bill

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Moore's situation there in the in the

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early 1980s would they have provided

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some feedback to the powers that be on

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the

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something done something different so

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let's go ahead and dive into uh dive

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into that

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correspondence and I'll try to keep

531
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track of where everybody uh is community

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what how everybody's communicating with

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me I think the screenshots I have here

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will allow me to do that so now in no

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particular order here we go

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um commenting on the softer life website

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Rob says have read project beta and

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Mirage mend and impuzzled as to why

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Dodie Moore Etc did this benowa worked

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as a government contractor and

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apparently was a traditional

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conservative patriotic pro-military type

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wouldn't it have made more sense to just

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say basically yeah we're experimenting

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with some fancy new tech here can't tell

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you about it but be quiet do your

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patriotic Duty and when we can we'll

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sort you out with some lucrative work in

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the future

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instead they waged a campaign of

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psychological warfare against the guy

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was it because he was already into UFO

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stuff and they ascertained secretly that

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he was prone to mental health issues and

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they just decided to push them along

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nothing really makes sense in the UFO

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intelligence crossover world that's a

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good question

559
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,200
um I think part of it is

560
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:36,480
that just just from what I read and how

561
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,220
I read things and how things appeared to

562
00:24:44,529 --> 00:24:40,320
me as I read things and this might not

563
00:24:48,770 --> 00:24:44,539
be entirely correct I kind of wonder if

564
00:24:51,649 --> 00:24:48,780
benowitz would have already been

565
00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:51,659
so he was I feel was already all in on

566
00:24:58,610 --> 00:24:55,679
the UFO aspect of it with the work with

567
00:25:00,830 --> 00:24:58,620
the abductee he was he was involved with

568
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:00,840
and and things like that I'm wondering

569
00:25:06,770 --> 00:25:04,080
if he would have believed them if they

570
00:25:09,470 --> 00:25:06,780
said you know it's it's you know secret

571
00:25:12,110 --> 00:25:09,480
keep keep it under your hat we'll hook

572
00:25:13,970 --> 00:25:12,120
you up with more work later I wonder if

573
00:25:16,130 --> 00:25:13,980
if they would have ended up having to to

574
00:25:19,010 --> 00:25:16,140
do something additional down the road if

575
00:25:22,669 --> 00:25:19,020
he was already sort of in that UFO Zone

576
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,679
I think maybe perhaps there's an element

577
00:25:26,269 --> 00:25:24,240
of

578
00:25:30,430 --> 00:25:26,279
wanting to know

579
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:30,440
sort of or to study or to examine how

580
00:25:36,649 --> 00:25:33,600
disinformation could spread within the

581
00:25:40,370 --> 00:25:36,659
UFO Community maybe just as a case study

582
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:40,380
perhaps or or a way to have some Avenues

583
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:44,640
set up in the future if and when they

584
00:25:49,789 --> 00:25:48,720
needed to disinform people maybe I don't

585
00:25:52,909 --> 00:25:49,799
know

586
00:25:55,070 --> 00:25:52,919
Paul over on the patreon says one

587
00:25:56,690 --> 00:25:55,080
question prior to Moore's speech why

588
00:25:59,210 --> 00:25:56,700
were John Lear and his flunkies so

589
00:26:01,070 --> 00:25:59,220
opposed to the mj-12 narrative seems

590
00:26:04,130 --> 00:26:01,080
like it would have validated their

591
00:26:06,049 --> 00:26:04,140
government conspiracy claims oh that's a

592
00:26:07,549 --> 00:26:06,059
good question as well

593
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,559
um

594
00:26:11,210 --> 00:26:09,360
and it's it's one of those things where

595
00:26:12,890 --> 00:26:11,220
there's a lot of

596
00:26:14,750 --> 00:26:12,900
conversation and things going back and

597
00:26:17,090 --> 00:26:14,760
forth and in speeches and in Internet

598
00:26:20,409 --> 00:26:17,100
posts that's or pre-internet posts

599
00:26:25,970 --> 00:26:20,419
that's hard to um hard to piece together

600
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:25,980
my impression has always been that the

601
00:26:35,210 --> 00:26:30,480
uh the Lear English Cooper wing of

602
00:26:38,450 --> 00:26:35,220
things believed mj-12 was it was kind of

603
00:26:41,690 --> 00:26:38,460
a a smoke screen to hide just how deep

604
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:41,700
and wide the conspiracy was mj12 said

605
00:26:45,769 --> 00:26:43,440
there's a there's a control group that's

606
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:45,779
that's managing these things

607
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:47,520
um and that would people would go down

608
00:26:54,169 --> 00:26:50,159
that Avenue and and not maybe listen to

609
00:26:56,450 --> 00:26:54,179
the abduction implant underground base

610
00:26:57,769 --> 00:26:56,460
wing of it

611
00:27:00,289 --> 00:26:57,779
um honestly I think part of it's

612
00:27:04,130 --> 00:27:00,299
probably that it took it took attention

613
00:27:06,409 --> 00:27:04,140
away from John Lear this is this is

614
00:27:08,750 --> 00:27:06,419
documentation more in chandaray and and

615
00:27:10,669 --> 00:27:08,760
Friedman had documentation that they

616
00:27:13,610 --> 00:27:10,679
were actively investigating

617
00:27:14,330 --> 00:27:13,620
what what did leer have Lear had you

618
00:27:16,190 --> 00:27:14,340
know

619
00:27:17,390 --> 00:27:16,200
lots of people are saying and things

620
00:27:20,029 --> 00:27:17,400
like that

621
00:27:22,610 --> 00:27:20,039
Paul continues what would I do in his

622
00:27:24,529 --> 00:27:22,620
shoes it's hard to say if it's the 1980s

623
00:27:26,330 --> 00:27:24,539
without decades and Decades of a crude

624
00:27:27,649 --> 00:27:26,340
cynicism about the government and

625
00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:27,659
everything we've learned since then

626
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:29,820
about domestic Cold War disinformation

627
00:27:33,769 --> 00:27:31,919
then yeah I'd have shared his reasoning

628
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:33,779
and taken the deal from the vantage

629
00:27:37,789 --> 00:27:36,240
point of 2023 I'd like to think I'd be

630
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,799
more circumspect but given the right

631
00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:40,080
offer I don't know if that would be the

632
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:43,140
case yeah yeah I I think especially in

633
00:27:47,409 --> 00:27:45,240
terms of UFO stuff we're a lot more

634
00:27:51,950 --> 00:27:47,419
cynical about government disinformation

635
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:51,960
uh in 1980 we we'd had Vietnam and the

636
00:27:57,649 --> 00:27:54,960
Pentagon papers and Watergate and the

637
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:57,659
church committee I think in general

638
00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:00,480
um there's there's some cynicism that

639
00:28:04,610 --> 00:28:02,400
that had built

640
00:28:08,090 --> 00:28:04,620
about the government and about the

641
00:28:10,669 --> 00:28:08,100
intelligence Community but within that

642
00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:10,679
that actual sort of specific UFO context

643
00:28:17,630 --> 00:28:13,980
yeah I I can absolutely see that

644
00:28:19,970 --> 00:28:17,640
Laura also over on patreon says I view

645
00:28:21,890 --> 00:28:19,980
Moore's speech as a watershed moment for

646
00:28:23,810 --> 00:28:21,900
ufology because of the doubt he cast on

647
00:28:26,029 --> 00:28:23,820
big theories like underground bases and

648
00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:26,039
alien implants even if you think he was

649
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:28,020
a crank or a double disinformation agent

650
00:28:31,250 --> 00:28:29,760
his Revelations should still make you

651
00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:31,260
think twice about the reality of the

652
00:28:35,690 --> 00:28:33,480
theories also his comments on ufology

653
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:35,700
remain True to this day I recently

654
00:28:39,649 --> 00:28:37,200
listened to some current opinions on the

655
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,659
2022 UAP report and thought those

656
00:28:46,370 --> 00:28:41,520
individuals would do well to revisit

657
00:28:50,390 --> 00:28:46,380
Moore's 1989 speech yes it is uncanny

658
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:50,400
and a bit Eerie how relevant a lot of

659
00:28:56,269 --> 00:28:54,720
that remains today Laura continues

660
00:28:58,250 --> 00:28:56,279
as for what I would do in his shoes

661
00:29:00,289 --> 00:28:58,260
honestly I think I would probably do the

662
00:29:01,850 --> 00:29:00,299
same the stakes were so high can you

663
00:29:04,010 --> 00:29:01,860
imagine being the person who finally

664
00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:04,020
achieved disclosure of course distrust

665
00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:05,940
of the Air Force already existed at the

666
00:29:09,230 --> 00:29:07,620
time but I don't think the culture of

667
00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:09,240
distrust was nearly as strong as it

668
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:11,640
would become after the benowitz affair I

669
00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:12,720
would like to believe that I would have

670
00:29:16,250 --> 00:29:14,400
given up the gig earlier as soon as it

671
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:16,260
became apparent that it was having such

672
00:29:20,330 --> 00:29:18,600
a negative effect on Paul the truth if

673
00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:20,340
it existed would still be there to be

674
00:29:23,630 --> 00:29:22,440
discovered another day and perhaps Paul

675
00:29:25,909 --> 00:29:23,640
could have remained a whole person

676
00:29:27,769 --> 00:29:25,919
indeed it seems that Moore's speech was

677
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:27,779
motivated by his guilt

678
00:29:31,310 --> 00:29:30,000
as an aside I now have a life goal to be

679
00:29:33,169 --> 00:29:31,320
in a position to begin a speech

680
00:29:35,450 --> 00:29:33,179
addressing both my friends and my

681
00:29:37,850 --> 00:29:35,460
adversaries you and me both Laura

682
00:29:38,750 --> 00:29:37,860
absolutely

683
00:29:40,730 --> 00:29:38,760
um

684
00:29:43,310 --> 00:29:40,740
in email

685
00:29:44,289 --> 00:29:43,320
um an email Lester a correspondent

686
00:29:46,430 --> 00:29:44,299
Lester

687
00:29:48,529 --> 00:29:46,440
asks did the weekly world news cover

688
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:48,539
Moore's speech I can't remember was Ed

689
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:51,600
anger Pig biting mad did Sophie sabac

690
00:29:56,570 --> 00:29:54,480
write I told you so I do not believe the

691
00:30:01,090 --> 00:29:56,580
weekly world news covered it I think by

692
00:30:03,710 --> 00:30:01,100
1989 they had moved on from

693
00:30:06,590 --> 00:30:03,720
legitimate journalism

694
00:30:09,289 --> 00:30:06,600
um they weren't covering

695
00:30:12,409 --> 00:30:09,299
those sorts of things as much but I

696
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:12,419
would love to hear Ed anger's take on

697
00:30:15,950 --> 00:30:13,200
um

698
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:15,960
on Bill Moore I think that would be uh

699
00:30:21,409 --> 00:30:18,720
that would be great red pill junkie

700
00:30:23,450 --> 00:30:21,419
comments on the website to me personally

701
00:30:25,250 --> 00:30:23,460
the situation becomes indefensible the

702
00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:25,260
moment benowitz started to deteriorate

703
00:30:29,450 --> 00:30:27,240
and became a danger to himself with

704
00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:29,460
others imagine if he'd committed suicide

705
00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:31,140
at his frustration of failing to stop

706
00:30:35,450 --> 00:30:33,720
the Alien Invasion or Worse imagine this

707
00:30:37,730 --> 00:30:35,460
whole thing had happened in the 2020s

708
00:30:39,289 --> 00:30:37,740
instead of the 1980s and benowitz had

709
00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:39,299
gone into a kind of shooting rampage

710
00:30:42,370 --> 00:30:40,980
that have turned all too common to even

711
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:42,380
bother report in the United States

712
00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:44,399
far-fetched no one can say that in the

713
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,860
age of Q Anon anymore all of that would

714
00:30:49,789 --> 00:30:48,240
have been on Moore's hands because at

715
00:30:51,409 --> 00:30:49,799
the end of the day he valued his chance

716
00:30:53,630 --> 00:30:51,419
to learn whatever he could about how the

717
00:30:55,010 --> 00:30:53,640
government dealt with the UFO issue more

718
00:30:57,169 --> 00:30:55,020
than whatever repercussions would be

719
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:57,179
fall Paul benowitz a man who considered

720
00:31:01,130 --> 00:30:58,799
him a friend and welcomed him into his

721
00:31:02,389 --> 00:31:01,140
home just how anyone can look at himself

722
00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:02,399
in the mirror after playing something

723
00:31:06,049 --> 00:31:04,140
like that is beyond me

724
00:31:08,090 --> 00:31:06,059
some would say that kind of grayscale

725
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,100
attitude is what's needed to win Wars

726
00:31:12,110 --> 00:31:10,559
and be successful at Espionage which is

727
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:12,120
why I'll never make good James Bond

728
00:31:16,370 --> 00:31:14,760
material I guess another comment on the

729
00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:16,380
website

730
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:19,320
that then as now for uh let me start

731
00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:22,080
reading that again then as now folks

732
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:24,240
sure do love their misinformation I love

733
00:31:28,730 --> 00:31:26,399
mine for misinformation as for the

734
00:31:30,169 --> 00:31:28,740
misinformation of others I'm not so sure

735
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:30,179
but a very informative podcast

736
00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:33,600
installment as usual yeah it's

737
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:35,520
it is a tricky question I think it's

738
00:31:39,889 --> 00:31:37,440
interesting that that a lot of people

739
00:31:42,529 --> 00:31:39,899
so far aren't really exactly sure what

740
00:31:45,769 --> 00:31:42,539
they do another I think this is the last

741
00:31:47,450 --> 00:31:45,779
comment from the website Matthew says I

742
00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:47,460
just finished my copy of wayward sons

743
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:49,500
and of Mirage Men in the mail to me so

744
00:31:52,669 --> 00:31:51,120
the timing of this episode was spot on

745
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:52,679
and is one of my all-time favorites well

746
00:31:57,769 --> 00:31:55,679
done thank you as to what would I do

747
00:32:00,409 --> 00:31:57,779
I'd like to pretend I'd be wiser but in

748
00:32:02,930 --> 00:32:00,419
the moment to be in to be an active

749
00:32:05,510 --> 00:32:02,940
participant and maybe learn something

750
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:05,520
hard to say

751
00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:09,360
Alexandra over on the patreon says with

752
00:32:13,490 --> 00:32:11,340
friends like Bill Paul doesn't need

753
00:32:16,250 --> 00:32:13,500
enemies I hope that if I were ever in

754
00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:16,260
Moore's position I would decline the

755
00:32:20,810 --> 00:32:19,140
offer Michael on the patreon says I

756
00:32:22,850 --> 00:32:20,820
think on some level Moore seems to have

757
00:32:24,590 --> 00:32:22,860
done ufologists a bit of a favor at

758
00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:24,600
least the more skeptical ones for

759
00:32:28,190 --> 00:32:26,340
example I Found pilkington's book made

760
00:32:29,930 --> 00:32:28,200
me feel he was kind of replacing the

761
00:32:32,269 --> 00:32:29,940
hunt for aliens with a hunt for

762
00:32:34,190 --> 00:32:32,279
disinformation campaigns I also wonder

763
00:32:35,930 --> 00:32:34,200
how much the disinformation actually

764
00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:35,940
contributed to benowitz's mental health

765
00:32:40,010 --> 00:32:37,799
troubles it doesn't change really change

766
00:32:42,169 --> 00:32:40,020
the ethics of the situation but I was

767
00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:42,179
left wondering if he'd had if he'd have

768
00:32:48,590 --> 00:32:46,260
ended up where he was on his own that is

769
00:32:49,310 --> 00:32:48,600
a good question

770
00:32:52,490 --> 00:32:49,320
um

771
00:32:54,529 --> 00:32:52,500
it it's it's a good question and some a

772
00:32:56,269 --> 00:32:54,539
question that is sort of raised and

773
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:56,279
discussed in some of the literature

774
00:33:02,090 --> 00:32:59,039
that's out there and I I don't know I

775
00:33:04,970 --> 00:33:02,100
don't know either I don't think Moore's

776
00:33:06,649 --> 00:33:04,980
um or the disinformation campaign Moore

777
00:33:10,250 --> 00:33:06,659
was not the only one involved of course

778
00:33:13,490 --> 00:33:10,260
uh I don't think that helped in any case

779
00:33:14,930 --> 00:33:13,500
Baird on the patreon says uh based on

780
00:33:17,090 --> 00:33:14,940
everything that's happened ever since

781
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:17,100
the Tic Tac video showed up it looks

782
00:33:20,990 --> 00:33:18,840
like the question to ask is who in the

783
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:21,000
community wouldn't make a deal like more

784
00:33:27,649 --> 00:33:25,919
yeah yeah yes uh doc Pinko says I

785
00:33:29,389 --> 00:33:27,659
probably would have participated my

786
00:33:31,789 --> 00:33:29,399
thinking would be we make so many

787
00:33:34,610 --> 00:33:31,799
day-to-day compromises in our lives this

788
00:33:36,409 --> 00:33:34,620
is just another one plus I'd hoped I

789
00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:36,419
hoped I'd try to surreptitiously warn

790
00:33:42,049 --> 00:33:39,240
benowitz I'd be the Patsy unfortunately

791
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:42,059
we've got one more comment from Sam on

792
00:33:45,889 --> 00:33:43,679
the website that came in just as I was

793
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,899
getting ready to record this if I was

794
00:33:50,090 --> 00:33:48,240
Bill Moore I'd take it other comments on

795
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:50,100
this webpage eloquently point out the

796
00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:51,840
shoddy ethics but in a field that

797
00:33:55,850 --> 00:33:53,880
largely consists of blind alleys rumors

798
00:33:57,529 --> 00:33:55,860
and fun house mirrors the desire to get

799
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,539
info from what you desperately want to

800
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,279
believe is the source would be

801
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:01,440
incredibly powerful reinforcing my view

802
00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:03,120
here is that people in general get a

803
00:34:07,850 --> 00:34:05,460
kick out of the idea of being part of a

804
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:07,860
secret privileged knowing Elite Everyone

805
00:34:11,570 --> 00:34:09,839
likes to feel special and I think there

806
00:34:13,369 --> 00:34:11,580
are a lot of paranormal researchers who

807
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:13,379
would be sorely tempted if they were

808
00:34:17,329 --> 00:34:14,879
approached by the Men in Black and told

809
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:17,339
you know too much now we need to recruit

810
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:21,119
you here's your black suit yeah I I

811
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:23,040
agree I think

812
00:34:27,950 --> 00:34:24,960
I was sort of thinking you know as I

813
00:34:30,589 --> 00:34:27,960
posed this question to you all out there

814
00:34:33,649 --> 00:34:30,599
in audience land I was

815
00:34:35,810 --> 00:34:33,659
um thinking you know what would I do in

816
00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:35,820
that situation and

817
00:34:50,210 --> 00:34:37,619
I

818
00:34:52,190 --> 00:34:50,220
will give you information on the effect

819
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:52,200
that this this information is having and

820
00:34:59,810 --> 00:34:57,119
what I'm hearing in the UFO Community I

821
00:35:02,810 --> 00:34:59,820
um I would probably through bad

822
00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:02,820
note-taking and laziness be really kind

823
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,160
of bad at it

824
00:35:08,570 --> 00:35:07,440
um and they probably would find somebody

825
00:35:10,190 --> 00:35:08,580
else

826
00:35:11,810 --> 00:35:10,200
so I'm not sure I would get to the point

827
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,820
where I would see benowitz's

828
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:13,920
deterioration I probably would have been

829
00:35:18,770 --> 00:35:16,560
quietly dropped from the project by then

830
00:35:21,410 --> 00:35:18,780
as um I would probably be pretty late

831
00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:21,420
with filing reports and and things like

832
00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:24,180
that but I honestly I probably would I

833
00:35:28,130 --> 00:35:26,460
probably would say yes I probably would

834
00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:28,140
say hey I can

835
00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:30,839
this they wouldn't be asking me to do

836
00:35:34,490 --> 00:35:32,940
this if they didn't have a legitimate

837
00:35:38,569 --> 00:35:34,500
important reason

838
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:38,579
to do so and I would like to be as one

839
00:35:42,589 --> 00:35:40,560
of you mentioned kind of an Insider that

840
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:42,599
would be kind of cool

841
00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:45,839
um I would have a real problem seeing

842
00:35:50,990 --> 00:35:49,020
the effect on uh on benowitz though and

843
00:35:57,530 --> 00:35:51,000
I would probably

844
00:35:59,210 --> 00:35:57,540
um I don't think I'd become some sort of

845
00:36:01,910 --> 00:35:59,220
whistleblower telling everybody what

846
00:36:05,089 --> 00:36:01,920
happened I I don't think I would have

847
00:36:06,829 --> 00:36:05,099
you know done anything like that I would

848
00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:06,839
probably have a healthy respect for the

849
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,060
way that people in certain positions can

850
00:36:13,130 --> 00:36:11,280
make people like me disappear pretty

851
00:36:16,430 --> 00:36:13,140
quickly but

852
00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:16,440
um I I think that uh I think that I

853
00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:18,480
probably would have taken the bait I I

854
00:36:22,670 --> 00:36:19,980
probably I probably would have been a

855
00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:22,680
patsy as well I I think

856
00:36:29,329 --> 00:36:26,460
a lot of people would okay thank you so

857
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:29,339
much for your feedback and uh on that

858
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,440
episode it seemed to be um seemed to go

859
00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:33,839
over well with people I'm glad I finally

860
00:36:40,130 --> 00:36:36,060
uh finally did it and got it out of the

861
00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:40,140
way so for now let's get back to Dr

862
00:36:46,609 --> 00:36:41,460
beater

863
00:36:51,069 --> 00:36:48,349
the battle of the Harvest Moon is

864
00:36:57,050 --> 00:36:51,079
something that happened in September of

865
00:36:59,290 --> 00:36:57,060
1977 and it represents a real turd in

866
00:37:02,510 --> 00:36:59,300
beaters thinking about

867
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:02,520
conspiracy and the Rockefellers and what

868
00:37:08,450 --> 00:37:06,960
is going on in 1976 beater had warned

869
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:08,460
that things were not going as well for

870
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:11,940
the Rockefellers as many suspected they

871
00:37:16,849 --> 00:37:14,640
would people who are on the boards of

872
00:37:18,650 --> 00:37:16,859
Trustees of major rockefeller-controlled

873
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:18,660
foundations were worried that the

874
00:37:25,069 --> 00:37:20,480
rockefeller's plan for world domination

875
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:25,079
was you know going off the tracks and

876
00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:28,880
they were right this month September

877
00:37:33,770 --> 00:37:31,859
1977 has witnessed the beginning of the

878
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:33,780
end for the Rockefellers

879
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:38,099
and also for America as we know it

880
00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:39,839
on the night of the Harvest Moon

881
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:43,380
September 27 1977

882
00:37:49,490 --> 00:37:45,839
the most decisive battle of the 20th

883
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:49,500
century ended in a stunning upset

884
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:52,800
this battle known only to a handful of

885
00:37:58,010 --> 00:37:55,440
individuals in the world was the

886
00:38:00,829 --> 00:37:58,020
culmination of the great secret race and

887
00:38:05,329 --> 00:38:00,839
super weapons which I reveal to you in

888
00:38:09,290 --> 00:38:05,339
audio letter 20 for January 1977 and my

889
00:38:12,410 --> 00:38:09,300
friends the Soviet Union won

890
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:12,420
now the Soviet Union is mobilizing for

891
00:38:16,849 --> 00:38:13,440
war

892
00:38:19,490 --> 00:38:16,859
confident at last the Rockefeller cartel

893
00:38:21,890 --> 00:38:19,500
can no longer stand in their way as they

894
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:21,900
conquer the entire world

895
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:25,380
the four Rockefeller brothers having set

896
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:27,359
the word on its present disastrous

897
00:38:35,089 --> 00:38:31,320
course can no longer do anything about

898
00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:38,030
my three topics for today are topic

899
00:38:47,390 --> 00:38:42,540
number one war in Space the battle of

900
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,400
the Harvest Moon September 27 1977.

901
00:38:53,450 --> 00:38:49,440
topic number two

902
00:38:56,510 --> 00:38:53,460
the last days of the Rockefeller Empire

903
00:38:59,690 --> 00:38:56,520
and topic number three the American

904
00:39:01,790 --> 00:38:59,700
dream in memoriam

905
00:39:04,190 --> 00:39:01,800
basically the story of the battle of the

906
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:04,200
Harvest Moon is this

907
00:39:11,329 --> 00:39:08,160
the entire space race has been mostly

908
00:39:14,450 --> 00:39:11,339
for show it has been a contest between

909
00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:14,460
the Rockefeller family and the Soviet

910
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:17,400
Union for Domination and one aspect of

911
00:39:23,870 --> 00:39:20,160
this domination was not the the race to

912
00:39:25,849 --> 00:39:23,880
build huge nuclear arsenals or Neutron

913
00:39:28,970 --> 00:39:25,859
bombs or things like that it was the

914
00:39:31,069 --> 00:39:28,980
race to develop Laser Technology and

915
00:39:34,490 --> 00:39:31,079
beyond that particle beam technology

916
00:39:36,410 --> 00:39:34,500
which could be used as a weapon the

917
00:39:40,430 --> 00:39:36,420
Soviets were developing particle beam

918
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:40,440
lasers that could pinpoint any Target on

919
00:39:45,890 --> 00:39:42,960
earth and the Rockefellers knowing that

920
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:45,900
the Soviets had The High Ground with the

921
00:39:50,750 --> 00:39:48,000
satellites ever since they launched

922
00:39:54,609 --> 00:39:50,760
Sputnik back in the 50s knew that the

923
00:39:57,290 --> 00:39:54,619
only place that an American or rather

924
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:57,300
rockefellerian uh particle beam weapon

925
00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:00,720
would be effective was on the moon so

926
00:40:05,690 --> 00:40:03,180
the Rockefellers began to use their

927
00:40:08,329 --> 00:40:05,700
power and influence to build a moon base

928
00:40:10,490 --> 00:40:08,339
in the Copernicus crater

929
00:40:13,490 --> 00:40:10,500
I was first alerted to the existence of

930
00:40:15,650 --> 00:40:13,500
a secret base on the Moon last November

931
00:40:17,870 --> 00:40:15,660
1976.

932
00:40:20,569 --> 00:40:17,880
but it has been one of the best kept of

933
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,579
all Rockefeller secrets and it was only

934
00:40:25,609 --> 00:40:22,800
a few weeks ago that I was able to

935
00:40:26,990 --> 00:40:25,619
confirm its existence and learn the

936
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:27,000
complete story

937
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:30,240
and since that time events have moved

938
00:40:35,930 --> 00:40:33,119
with lightning speed throughout this

939
00:40:37,730 --> 00:40:35,940
year and unseen but deadly race has been

940
00:40:40,490 --> 00:40:37,740
underway to see who would get an

941
00:40:42,650 --> 00:40:40,500
operational particle beam first The

942
00:40:46,370 --> 00:40:42,660
Rockefellers at their secret moon base

943
00:40:49,849 --> 00:40:46,380
or the Soviet Union in Earth orbit

944
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:49,859
in July 1977 the Soviets launched a

945
00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:53,040
large satellite called Cosmos 929

946
00:40:56,930 --> 00:40:55,020
satellite Watchers beater says were

947
00:40:59,690 --> 00:40:56,940
mystified because the radio signals

948
00:41:02,390 --> 00:40:59,700
didn't make sense but this was not any

949
00:41:03,770 --> 00:41:02,400
satellite it was a manned particle beam

950
00:41:07,069 --> 00:41:03,780
weapon

951
00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:07,079
and what's frightening is the Soviets

952
00:41:11,569 --> 00:41:08,700
had this particle beam weapon in orbit

953
00:41:15,290 --> 00:41:11,579
but the American Rockefeller moon base

954
00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:15,300
was not yet finished it wasn't yet fully

955
00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:16,920
constructed Timber

956
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,320
while the American moon base is still

957
00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:21,359
being worked on and that particle beam

958
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:23,940
weapon is not ready yet the Soviets were

959
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:27,839
able to test Cosmos 929 they fired it

960
00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:31,200
into open space then they fired it at a

961
00:41:37,550 --> 00:41:34,680
target an American spy satellite it flew

962
00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:37,560
over Southern Finland it was blasted out

963
00:41:43,970 --> 00:41:41,160
of the sky by Cosmos 929 the satellite

964
00:41:46,730 --> 00:41:43,980
erupted into what Peter called an

965
00:41:48,410 --> 00:41:46,740
immense Fireball of light it was

966
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:48,420
reported in the news

967
00:41:54,370 --> 00:41:51,599
but not as a satellite attack

968
00:41:56,770 --> 00:41:54,380
news reports that day in this country

969
00:41:59,569 --> 00:41:56,780
dismissed it all as a curious

970
00:42:03,290 --> 00:41:59,579
jellyfish-like UFO

971
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:03,300
so what happened to our Rockefeller moon

972
00:42:09,530 --> 00:42:07,200
base by the 26th of September American

973
00:42:12,650 --> 00:42:09,540
Personnel at the secret Rockefeller moon

974
00:42:15,410 --> 00:42:12,660
base nestled in Copernicus crater were

975
00:42:17,390 --> 00:42:15,420
almost ready their particle beam was

976
00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:17,400
almost operational

977
00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:19,800
but they were too late

978
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,400
by late that day the Soviet Union began

979
00:42:28,609 --> 00:42:25,680
bombarding the moon base with a neutron

980
00:42:32,030 --> 00:42:28,619
particle beam through the night and all

981
00:42:34,190 --> 00:42:32,040
day on September 27 the moon base was

982
00:42:37,370 --> 00:42:34,200
bombarded without Mercy with Neutron

983
00:42:38,810 --> 00:42:37,380
radiation just like that produced by a

984
00:42:42,050 --> 00:42:38,820
neutron bomb

985
00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:42,060
and by that evening As Americans looked

986
00:42:46,490 --> 00:42:44,339
up at the peaceful full moon overhead

987
00:42:49,790 --> 00:42:46,500
known as the Harvest Moon

988
00:42:52,190 --> 00:42:49,800
the last few Americans on the moon were

989
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:52,200
dying of neutron radiation

990
00:42:57,470 --> 00:42:55,440
America had lost the battle of the

991
00:42:59,390 --> 00:42:57,480
Harvest Moon

992
00:43:01,490 --> 00:42:59,400
well that doesn't sound good at all what

993
00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:01,500
are the consequences of this for the

994
00:43:08,329 --> 00:43:06,060
United States my friends in 1945 America

995
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:08,339
became the first nation on Earth to

996
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:11,520
possess an awesome new super weapon the

997
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:15,359
atomic bomb but now it is the Soviet

998
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:18,000
Union that has won the race for a new

999
00:43:24,589 --> 00:43:21,359
super weapon the particle beam that

1000
00:43:27,650 --> 00:43:24,599
could be as decisive today as the atomic

1001
00:43:30,490 --> 00:43:27,660
bomb was in 1945.

1002
00:43:33,050 --> 00:43:30,500
The Rockefellers have disarmed America

1003
00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:33,060
while betting everything on the moon

1004
00:43:37,069 --> 00:43:34,020
base

1005
00:43:40,670 --> 00:43:37,079
thinking they would win the race

1006
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,680
but they made a terrible miscalculation

1007
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:42,240
and now

1008
00:43:48,589 --> 00:43:46,800
we will all suffer the consequences

1009
00:43:51,470 --> 00:43:48,599
so there's two sets of bad guys here

1010
00:43:52,849 --> 00:43:51,480
right there's the Soviets Bad and The

1011
00:43:55,490 --> 00:43:52,859
Rockefellers

1012
00:43:59,450 --> 00:43:55,500
bad maybe worse so you've got a battle

1013
00:44:03,230 --> 00:43:59,460
between the two bad guys and no matter

1014
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:03,240
who wins we lose right the battle of the

1015
00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:04,560
Harvest Moon was a turning point because

1016
00:44:09,890 --> 00:44:07,220
it showed the Rockefellers as vulnerable

1017
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:09,900
there were other twists and turns to

1018
00:44:16,849 --> 00:44:12,960
come in the work that Dr Peter was doing

1019
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:16,859
in 1979 there would be a few things that

1020
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:20,160
would sort of throw a wrench into what

1021
00:44:28,490 --> 00:44:24,480
Peter was doing one thing was that in

1022
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:28,500
um oh January yeah January of 79 Nelson

1023
00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:30,960
Rockefeller died actually the

1024
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:32,700
circumstances surrounding rockefeller's

1025
00:44:37,609 --> 00:44:34,800
death are pretty interesting I won't go

1026
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:37,619
into it here but um lots of rumors that

1027
00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:39,780
he was not alone but with a young woman

1028
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:43,380
at the time of his heart attack Peter

1029
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,319
would link this to Rockefeller being

1030
00:44:51,650 --> 00:44:48,960
assassinated and just like his brother

1031
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:51,660
John D Rockefeller III a little while

1032
00:44:55,609 --> 00:44:53,760
earlier having died in an automobile

1033
00:44:59,210 --> 00:44:55,619
accident Peter says we may never know

1034
00:45:03,470 --> 00:44:59,220
the full story of what happened also in

1035
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:03,480
1979 April 15 1979 to be more precise

1036
00:45:08,510 --> 00:45:05,760
there was a story by Rudy Maxa in the

1037
00:45:13,069 --> 00:45:08,520
Washington Post sort of a profile of Dr

1038
00:45:17,690 --> 00:45:15,770
the world Outlook is grim very Grimm

1039
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,700
says Peter Peter but with the

1040
00:45:21,290 --> 00:45:19,200
government's Looting of the gold in Fort

1041
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:21,300
Knox the toll cancer is taking on Jimmy

1042
00:45:25,790 --> 00:45:23,760
Carter's body The Murder By gun of

1043
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:25,800
Nelson Rockefeller nefarious military

1044
00:45:30,589 --> 00:45:28,200
political and economic plots to numerous

1045
00:45:32,580 --> 00:45:30,599
to detail Peter holds out little hope

1046
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,590
for average folks in the United States

1047
00:45:36,770 --> 00:45:34,560
[Music]

1048
00:45:38,210 --> 00:45:36,780
the article goes on to detail Peter's

1049
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:38,220
ideas about the Battle of the Harvest

1050
00:45:43,370 --> 00:45:41,040
New Moon the Rockefeller assassination

1051
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:43,380
or assassinations depending on how you

1052
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:44,760
want to

1053
00:45:50,510 --> 00:45:47,040
um consider it and tells us a little bit

1054
00:45:53,210 --> 00:45:50,520
about his life outside of the conspiracy

1055
00:45:57,410 --> 00:45:55,490
Peter's world seems one of dark plots

1056
00:45:58,910 --> 00:45:57,420
and great vague forces and he

1057
00:46:01,010 --> 00:45:58,920
acknowledges that he is on a lonely

1058
00:46:03,470 --> 00:46:01,020
Patrol several weeks out of every month

1059
00:46:05,809 --> 00:46:03,480
he works alone at his K Street office or

1060
00:46:07,790 --> 00:46:05,819
Bethesda Home preparing his tapes then

1061
00:46:09,710 --> 00:46:07,800
he Jets via the Concord to Europe where

1062
00:46:11,690 --> 00:46:09,720
from an office in Monte Carlo he

1063
00:46:13,970 --> 00:46:11,700
dispenses investment advice

1064
00:46:15,950 --> 00:46:13,980
he's a low-key and self-deprecating man

1065
00:46:17,770 --> 00:46:15,960
who seems apologetic as he tells a

1066
00:46:19,970 --> 00:46:17,780
luncheon companion all sorts of bad news

1067
00:46:22,190 --> 00:46:19,980
including word that the president has

1068
00:46:23,809 --> 00:46:22,200
terminal cancer Peter says he draws

1069
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:23,819
strength from living well with his wife

1070
00:46:28,490 --> 00:46:25,920
and three children and daily meditation

1071
00:46:31,250 --> 00:46:28,500
sometimes on our Lord sometimes on

1072
00:46:32,990 --> 00:46:31,260
ramakrishna for fun sometimes he flies

1073
00:46:35,569 --> 00:46:33,000
up to Harvard to sit in on religion

1074
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,579
classes every time I make a tape I pray

1075
00:46:39,950 --> 00:46:37,200
and meditate for about an hour before

1076
00:46:41,930 --> 00:46:39,960
says Peter it's more than just words

1077
00:46:44,450 --> 00:46:41,940
that go into the tapes it's spiritual

1078
00:46:47,210 --> 00:46:44,460
vibration people may say I don't believe

1079
00:46:52,010 --> 00:46:47,220
it this man is way out but once the seed

1080
00:46:59,630 --> 00:46:56,710
okay so what about these organic

1081
00:47:01,849 --> 00:46:59,640
robotoids I threw that phrase in the

1082
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,859
title because it sounded

1083
00:47:05,089 --> 00:47:03,839
cooler than actually I'm not sure it

1084
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,099
does sound cooler than Battle of the

1085
00:47:08,809 --> 00:47:07,440
Harvest Moon actually I never come up

1086
00:47:10,970 --> 00:47:08,819
with the title until after I'm done

1087
00:47:13,309 --> 00:47:10,980
recording things so it might be Battle

1088
00:47:16,490 --> 00:47:13,319
of the Harvest Moon I'm not sure

1089
00:47:18,410 --> 00:47:16,500
interesting I might have to I don't know

1090
00:47:21,170 --> 00:47:18,420
I was like I should have everybody vote

1091
00:47:22,910 --> 00:47:21,180
on it but it'll be too late by then you

1092
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:22,920
know recording things out of sequence is

1093
00:47:29,329 --> 00:47:25,520
is kind of like time traveling anyway

1094
00:47:32,930 --> 00:47:29,339
what's with these organic robot toys

1095
00:47:35,690 --> 00:47:32,940
well in April of 1979 not too long after

1096
00:47:37,370 --> 00:47:35,700
that Washington Post profile Dr beader

1097
00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:37,380
began to

1098
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:39,660
tell a story drop some hints about some

1099
00:47:45,290 --> 00:47:42,960
things that were deeply disturbing my

1100
00:47:48,109 --> 00:47:45,300
friends I realized that today as in the

1101
00:47:51,230 --> 00:47:48,119
past many people are skeptical about

1102
00:47:53,150 --> 00:47:51,240
what I have to reveal after all these

1103
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,160
things are probably contrary to what

1104
00:47:57,950 --> 00:47:55,440
they have heard from friends family

1105
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:57,960
teachers and the news media

1106
00:48:02,990 --> 00:48:00,240
they do not have my intelligent sources

1107
00:48:06,109 --> 00:48:03,000
and if I were to reveal these sources

1108
00:48:08,809 --> 00:48:06,119
they would dry up but I believe that my

1109
00:48:10,849 --> 00:48:08,819
duty is simply to reveal the truth not

1110
00:48:13,130 --> 00:48:10,859
covered up just because it may be hard

1111
00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:13,140
to accept I've listened to a lot of Dr

1112
00:48:17,930 --> 00:48:14,819
beater tapes over the years probably

1113
00:48:20,809 --> 00:48:17,940
more than any healthy well-adjusted

1114
00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:20,819
person should and it's not often at all

1115
00:48:24,890 --> 00:48:22,260
that you hear him say something like

1116
00:48:28,550 --> 00:48:24,900
this which basically amounts to I know

1117
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,560
that what I'm about to say is absolutely

1118
00:48:31,250 --> 00:48:30,000
bonkers

1119
00:48:33,050 --> 00:48:31,260
but

1120
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,060
take my word for it

1121
00:48:38,809 --> 00:48:35,520
my three topics this month are topic

1122
00:48:42,650 --> 00:48:38,819
number one the domestic Guyana at Three

1123
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:42,660
Mile Island topic number two the secret

1124
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:45,599
intelligence war of doubles all right

1125
00:48:53,390 --> 00:48:49,440
topic number three last call for a

1126
00:48:57,710 --> 00:48:53,400
pilgrimage for peace okay so the

1127
00:49:00,530 --> 00:48:57,720
intelligence war of doubles what is this

1128
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:00,540
about with the Rockefeller family in

1129
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:04,319
shambles as Nelson and John have been

1130
00:49:09,130 --> 00:49:06,960
killed the Bolshevik takeover the plan

1131
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:09,140
Bolshevik takeover of the United States

1132
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:12,720
is underway things are chaotic but as

1133
00:49:16,849 --> 00:49:14,640
far as beater is aware there's a plan to

1134
00:49:19,849 --> 00:49:16,859
cause a war in the Middle East or some

1135
00:49:23,089 --> 00:49:19,859
kind of crisis in order to

1136
00:49:25,849 --> 00:49:23,099
instigate some kind of mass takeover but

1137
00:49:28,370 --> 00:49:25,859
something has thrown a wrench into those

1138
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,380
plants but these and other plans have

1139
00:49:33,530 --> 00:49:30,720
been thrown into question by recent

1140
00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:33,540
eruption of intelligence Warfare by

1141
00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:35,460
means of doubles look-alikes and

1142
00:49:41,210 --> 00:49:38,520
imposters look-alikes and imposters well

1143
00:49:43,329 --> 00:49:41,220
who was being looked alike and who is

1144
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:43,339
being impostored

1145
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:45,359
imposterized is that a word I don't know

1146
00:49:50,450 --> 00:49:46,319
it's

1147
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:50,460
sure how words work but here is the

1148
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,359
story

1149
00:49:56,569 --> 00:49:54,000
for example earlier this month on April

1150
00:49:59,630 --> 00:49:56,579
11th vice president Walter Mondale

1151
00:50:02,210 --> 00:49:59,640
reported he left Washington on a trip to

1152
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:02,220
Iceland Scandinavia and the Netherlands

1153
00:50:08,750 --> 00:50:06,000
but my friends the man and woman on Air

1154
00:50:11,210 --> 00:50:08,760
Force 2 were not Mondale and his wife

1155
00:50:14,329 --> 00:50:11,220
but actually doubles

1156
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:14,339
the real Walter and Joan Mondale had

1157
00:50:18,770 --> 00:50:16,079
been Spirited Away

1158
00:50:21,410 --> 00:50:18,780
the following day Jimmy Roseland and Amy

1159
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:21,420
Carter the real ones left the White

1160
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,240
House for a 10-day Easter vacation in

1161
00:50:31,309 --> 00:50:27,359
Georgia the first eight days were to be

1162
00:50:34,370 --> 00:50:31,319
spent offshore in seclusion at cepelo

1163
00:50:37,309 --> 00:50:34,380
Island Carter was looking more Haggard

1164
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,319
by the day wrecked by leukemia and

1165
00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:39,119
multiple cancers

1166
00:50:44,990 --> 00:50:41,700
his visible loss of weight lately had

1167
00:50:48,530 --> 00:50:45,000
prompted cover stories about his alleged

1168
00:50:51,290 --> 00:50:48,540
success at dieting he was fast losing

1169
00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:51,300
the ability to work at all and news

1170
00:50:55,609 --> 00:50:53,940
stories said he was going to Georgia to

1171
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:55,619
seek solitude

1172
00:51:00,589 --> 00:50:58,079
and so for a week and a half surrounding

1173
00:51:02,690 --> 00:51:00,599
Easter the President and Vice President

1174
00:51:06,290 --> 00:51:02,700
of the United States were out of public

1175
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:06,300
view a few low-key reports appeared in

1176
00:51:12,530 --> 00:51:08,400
the papers about the alleged activities

1177
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,540
of Mondale on his trip otherwise all was

1178
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:14,640
quiet here in Washington

1179
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:17,280
the real purpose of the trip by mondel's

1180
00:51:23,809 --> 00:51:20,160
Bolshevik double was to try to obtain

1181
00:51:26,990 --> 00:51:23,819
oil for Israel but in this the Mondale

1182
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:27,000
double failed because very recently

1183
00:51:33,530 --> 00:51:30,480
Russia's martial Dimitri Ustinov the man

1184
00:51:36,829 --> 00:51:33,540
now in charge in the Kremlin had visited

1185
00:51:39,410 --> 00:51:36,839
Norway personally and Norway has now

1186
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:39,420
come to terms with Russia

1187
00:51:45,250 --> 00:51:42,000
okay there's a lot going on here but uh

1188
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:45,260
the upshot is Mondale ain't Mondale

1189
00:51:50,569 --> 00:51:48,240
Mondale is a double the Mondale you see

1190
00:51:53,870 --> 00:51:50,579
is not the real Mondale it's a fake

1191
00:51:55,790 --> 00:51:53,880
Mondale and Carter well there's you know

1192
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,800
he's looking rough isn't he he's looking

1193
00:52:00,410 --> 00:51:57,839
rough it's not a diet it's the cancers

1194
00:52:03,049 --> 00:52:00,420
multiple Cancers and Leukemia he's eat

1195
00:52:05,630 --> 00:52:03,059
up with it he's gonna drop it's not the

1196
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:05,640
stress of the job right I mean seriously

1197
00:52:09,230 --> 00:52:07,440
have you ever looked at a picture of

1198
00:52:11,329 --> 00:52:09,240
somebody the day they enter the

1199
00:52:13,010 --> 00:52:11,339
presidency and the day they leave it's

1200
00:52:16,849 --> 00:52:13,020
like they've been hit with an aging Ray

1201
00:52:19,370 --> 00:52:16,859
right it's a horribly stressful job I

1202
00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:19,380
can't imagine how anybody over the age

1203
00:52:25,849 --> 00:52:22,500
of about 40 is able to handle it without

1204
00:52:28,609 --> 00:52:25,859
just dropping dead the answer is they do

1205
00:52:31,690 --> 00:52:28,619
drop dead they've been replaced by a

1206
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:31,700
double so if Mondale is not Mondale

1207
00:52:38,270 --> 00:52:35,280
where is Mondale I have never said the

1208
00:52:40,370 --> 00:52:38,280
word Mondale more times in my entire

1209
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:40,380
life than I am this

1210
00:52:46,910 --> 00:52:43,440
the weekend after Easter things happen

1211
00:52:50,329 --> 00:52:46,920
fast completely unseen by the public

1212
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:50,339
on Friday night April 20 the real Walter

1213
00:52:55,609 --> 00:52:53,520
Mondale was being held in communicado by

1214
00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:55,619
Bolshevik kepters in New Richmond in

1215
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:57,480
Western Wisconsin

1216
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:00,480
sometime between 9 30 and 10 pm local

1217
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:03,359
time the vice president Walter Mondale

1218
00:53:08,270 --> 00:53:06,960
was executed that's pretty grim and it's

1219
00:53:11,569 --> 00:53:08,280
interesting it happened in this this

1220
00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:11,579
Tiny Town of of New Richmond New

1221
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:14,280
Richmond Wisconsin that is very strange

1222
00:53:18,530 --> 00:53:15,839
even even today New Richmond has about

1223
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,540
10 000 people looks like a nice place in

1224
00:53:22,430 --> 00:53:20,880
Saint Croix County Wisconsin out in the

1225
00:53:25,609 --> 00:53:22,440
western part of the state beautiful

1226
00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:25,619
country out there so while all this is

1227
00:53:30,349 --> 00:53:27,660
going on what's what's been happening to

1228
00:53:32,089 --> 00:53:30,359
to Jimmy Carter I mean how long can he

1229
00:53:34,490 --> 00:53:32,099
survive being eat up with cancer like

1230
00:53:37,609 --> 00:53:34,500
that well maybe the Jimmy Carter we see

1231
00:53:41,150 --> 00:53:37,619
is not the real Jimmy Carter on Saturday

1232
00:53:43,970 --> 00:53:41,160
April 21 Jimmy Carter flew secretly from

1233
00:53:47,630 --> 00:53:43,980
Georgia to Camp David unaware that

1234
00:53:49,849 --> 00:53:47,640
Mondale was dead after lunch he went to

1235
00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:49,859
Bethesda naval hospital for a checkup on

1236
00:53:53,690 --> 00:53:52,380
his cancer and then to the White House

1237
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:53,700
briefly

1238
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:56,400
it was not until roughly 8 P.M that

1239
00:54:03,190 --> 00:53:59,040
night that the real Jimmy Carter

1240
00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:03,200
returned to planes there about 10 30 p.m

1241
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:06,000
Jimmy Carter president of the United

1242
00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:09,599
States was shot between the eyes

1243
00:54:13,549 --> 00:54:12,660
but incredibly he retained some signs of

1244
00:54:16,190 --> 00:54:13,559
life

1245
00:54:18,190 --> 00:54:16,200
he was rushed from Planes to Andrews Air

1246
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:18,200
Force Base outside of Washington

1247
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:21,119
arriving shortly after midnight

1248
00:54:28,190 --> 00:54:24,720
by 2 a.m Sunday April 22nd he was in

1249
00:54:30,829 --> 00:54:28,200
surgery at Bethesda naval hospital

1250
00:54:34,370 --> 00:54:30,839
but it was hopeless just as it was in

1251
00:54:37,069 --> 00:54:34,380
1963 when President Kennedy was shot in

1252
00:54:39,230 --> 00:54:37,079
the head with Rosalind Carter in shock

1253
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:39,240
the body of the late president of the

1254
00:54:44,510 --> 00:54:42,000
United States was disposed of quickly

1255
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,520
that evening the real Rosalind Carter

1256
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:47,040
was at the White House under heavy

1257
00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:50,400
sedation but shortly after midnight she

1258
00:54:53,930 --> 00:54:52,500
too was executed with a bullet between

1259
00:54:56,809 --> 00:54:53,940
the eyes

1260
00:54:59,450 --> 00:54:56,819
that's again very Grim this whole

1261
00:55:01,069 --> 00:54:59,460
doubles thing is in some ways just kind

1262
00:55:02,809 --> 00:55:01,079
of a I don't know if this is the best

1263
00:55:05,329 --> 00:55:02,819
way to say it but it's almost a dumbing

1264
00:55:07,790 --> 00:55:05,339
down of the old Manchurian Candidate

1265
00:55:10,490 --> 00:55:07,800
idea where somebody was brainwashed into

1266
00:55:13,010 --> 00:55:10,500
being an assassin or into to doing

1267
00:55:15,170 --> 00:55:13,020
things that that were harmful to the

1268
00:55:17,210 --> 00:55:15,180
United States or whichever country they

1269
00:55:19,730 --> 00:55:17,220
were aimed at in this case we don't have

1270
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:19,740
to to mess with the the complicated

1271
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,520
question of if and how mind control at

1272
00:55:28,430 --> 00:55:25,440
that level Works no we just kill the

1273
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:28,440
person and replace them with a double

1274
00:55:33,230 --> 00:55:30,720
well the problem is one of the problems

1275
00:55:36,490 --> 00:55:33,240
is I mean among the many problems here

1276
00:55:40,970 --> 00:55:36,500
is the question of proof how do we know

1277
00:55:44,450 --> 00:55:40,980
that the Carter that we have now is not

1278
00:55:46,609 --> 00:55:44,460
the Carter that we had before

1279
00:55:49,069 --> 00:55:46,619
during the past several days Jimmy

1280
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,079
Carter number two that is Carter's

1281
00:55:54,770 --> 00:55:51,599
double has been seen repeatedly in

1282
00:55:56,450 --> 00:55:54,780
public and what a change Jimmy Carter

1283
00:55:59,690 --> 00:55:56,460
number two looks and acts 10 years

1284
00:56:02,329 --> 00:55:59,700
younger than the real Carter did listen

1285
00:56:05,089 --> 00:56:02,339
now to the tired halting voice of the

1286
00:56:08,510 --> 00:56:05,099
old Carter as he read a prepared

1287
00:56:10,430 --> 00:56:08,520
statement just 17 days ago on April the

1288
00:56:12,290 --> 00:56:10,440
10th

1289
00:56:13,790 --> 00:56:12,300
we have already begun to hear a good

1290
00:56:15,710 --> 00:56:13,800
deal

1291
00:56:17,870 --> 00:56:15,720
of talk from the oil companies about

1292
00:56:20,270 --> 00:56:17,880
so-called plowbacks

1293
00:56:22,190 --> 00:56:20,280
but what this talk covers up

1294
00:56:24,109 --> 00:56:22,200
is that this proposal

1295
00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:24,119
as it will be presented with the

1296
00:56:30,650 --> 00:56:27,420
windfall profits tax already provides

1297
00:56:32,990 --> 00:56:30,660
six billion dollars in increased Revenue

1298
00:56:37,250 --> 00:56:33,000
now compare that with the more shrill

1299
00:56:40,370 --> 00:56:37,260
voice forceful vigorous and confident of

1300
00:56:42,349 --> 00:56:40,380
Carter number two just two days ago on

1301
00:56:45,950 --> 00:56:42,359
April the 25th

1302
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:45,960
the bottom line is that if there is an

1303
00:56:52,790 --> 00:56:49,920
effort to cheat on the salt agreement

1304
00:56:57,470 --> 00:56:52,800
including the limits on modernizing

1305
00:57:01,010 --> 00:56:57,480
icbms we will detect it

1306
00:57:04,430 --> 00:57:01,020
my friends the flat awkward speaking

1307
00:57:07,549 --> 00:57:04,440
style of the old Carter is gone in its

1308
00:57:10,490 --> 00:57:07,559
place is a new style of delivery which

1309
00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:10,500
imitates the old Carter but has better

1310
00:57:14,049 --> 00:57:13,020
phrasing and more lively inflection of

1311
00:57:18,049 --> 00:57:14,059
the voice

1312
00:57:20,990 --> 00:57:18,059
I did not get that at all from what we

1313
00:57:22,609 --> 00:57:21,000
heard it's I guess if you want to hear

1314
00:57:25,309 --> 00:57:22,619
it you can hear it you can pick out

1315
00:57:27,470 --> 00:57:25,319
things that that sound more lively but

1316
00:57:29,809 --> 00:57:27,480
maybe because in the first clip he was

1317
00:57:31,849 --> 00:57:29,819
talking about tax policy and in the

1318
00:57:34,730 --> 00:57:31,859
second clip he was talking about

1319
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:34,740
you know disarmament treaty violations I

1320
00:57:39,230 --> 00:57:36,240
mean I know for me one of those things

1321
00:57:41,930 --> 00:57:39,240
is is way more sort of

1322
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:41,940
fun then Fun's not the right word um

1323
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:45,359
energizing than the other so where do

1324
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:48,000
these doubles come from what is what is

1325
00:57:52,609 --> 00:57:51,119
going on with them what are they is it

1326
00:57:55,849 --> 00:57:52,619
just somebody dressed up to look like

1327
00:57:56,990 --> 00:57:55,859
Jimmy Carter or is it more Insidious

1328
00:57:59,690 --> 00:57:57,000
than that

1329
00:58:03,230 --> 00:57:59,700
when I recorded audio letter 45 last

1330
00:58:05,870 --> 00:58:03,240
month the situation was confusing and my

1331
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:05,880
information was still fragmentary

1332
00:58:10,790 --> 00:58:09,359
but I told you what I could and now I

1333
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:10,800
can tell you more

1334
00:58:15,049 --> 00:58:12,960
the war of doubles involves not only the

1335
00:58:17,870 --> 00:58:15,059
Bolsheviks but the clandestine Services

1336
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:17,880
of Russia Great Britain and Israel

1337
00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:19,920
but the basic battle lines are being

1338
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:22,920
drawn between Russia and the Bolsheviks

1339
00:58:28,250 --> 00:58:25,440
as of now the Russians appear to be

1340
00:58:30,890 --> 00:58:28,260
gradually gaining the upper hand thanks

1341
00:58:33,650 --> 00:58:30,900
to their use of an astonishing new

1342
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:33,660
intelligence weapon so the Russians are

1343
00:58:42,829 --> 00:58:37,760
behind it in their battle against the

1344
00:58:45,289 --> 00:58:42,839
Bolsheviks I I don't understand entirely

1345
00:58:47,089 --> 00:58:45,299
basically there are two factions within

1346
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:47,099
Russia there's the Russian government

1347
00:58:52,910 --> 00:58:48,960
and there's also the Bolsheviks which

1348
00:58:55,010 --> 00:58:52,920
represent World communism it's it's kind

1349
00:58:56,510 --> 00:58:55,020
of confusing and it gets a little a

1350
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:56,520
little weirder than that so we've got

1351
00:59:02,170 --> 00:58:59,280
Russians behind the doubles what are the

1352
00:59:04,370 --> 00:59:02,180
doubles in Russia as well as in the west

1353
00:59:07,970 --> 00:59:04,380
research has been underway for many

1354
00:59:10,849 --> 00:59:07,980
years in biological synthesis that is

1355
00:59:12,349 --> 00:59:10,859
artificial life forms and according to

1356
00:59:14,089 --> 00:59:12,359
high intelligence a stunning

1357
00:59:15,530 --> 00:59:14,099
breakthrough took place in Russia some

1358
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:15,540
years ago

1359
00:59:20,450 --> 00:59:17,520
the Russians refer to this breakthrough

1360
00:59:23,150 --> 00:59:20,460
as a providential discovery something

1361
00:59:25,370 --> 00:59:23,160
they learned almost by accident

1362
00:59:28,190 --> 00:59:25,380
they discovered the key to creating what

1363
00:59:31,010 --> 00:59:28,200
are known as organic robotoids

1364
00:59:34,370 --> 00:59:31,020
and organic robotoid is an artificial

1365
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:34,380
robot-like creature it looks and acts

1366
00:59:38,809 --> 00:59:37,440
exactly like a human being and yet it is

1367
00:59:41,390 --> 00:59:38,819
not human

1368
00:59:46,010 --> 00:59:41,400
a robotoid is alive in the biological

1369
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sense but it is an artificial life form

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so okay these are basically clones so

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how do you make one of these things

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the pattern required is that of genetic

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coding taken from a few cells from the

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body of a human being

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in this respect the Russian technique

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sounds like cloning but the technique

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itself is totally unrelated to genuine

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cloning a robotoid is produced within a

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matter of hours and it simulates the

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human donor at his current age

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like any man-made copy of anything a

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robotoid is never a perfect copy of the

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human that is to be simulated there's

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always small discrepancies in appearance

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01:00:30,289 --> 01:00:27,780
and behavior but these are seldom great

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enough to arouse any suspicion

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01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,700
and there you have it this is what's

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going on and this would sort of be the

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hobby horse that beater would ride for

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01:00:43,609 --> 01:00:41,220
the rest of his audio letter career that

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there is a secret war between various

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intelligence services and the

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intelligence services and a conception

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he has of a a Christian sort of good

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Russia which is joining the battle

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01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:55,920
against the

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um the the Bolshevik uh the Bolshevik

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01:01:01,789 --> 01:01:00,180
hordes and the Rockefellers had

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01:01:04,390 --> 01:01:01,799
kick-started this but the Rockefellers

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were sort of eliminated along the way

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01:01:18,829 --> 01:01:14,990
um weird beater would die in 1987 and

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01:01:23,930 --> 01:01:18,839
gave up his audio letters in um in the

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the mid-80s as um as his health began to

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01:01:29,210 --> 01:01:27,119
decline he would uh appear on other

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01:01:31,549 --> 01:01:29,220
shows uh he appeared with um a guy named

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01:01:35,710 --> 01:01:31,559
Sherman skolnick who was a conspiracy

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01:01:39,049 --> 01:01:35,720
guy who was around for a long time but

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01:01:41,690 --> 01:01:39,059
his influence is is interesting he's not

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01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:41,700
well known and

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01:01:46,130 --> 01:01:44,760
um I do think it's it's important to

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01:01:48,109 --> 01:01:46,140
recognize though that some of these

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01:01:52,730 --> 01:01:48,119
ideas that he has that he kind of

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01:01:55,130 --> 01:01:52,740
pioneered have been consistent the

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01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:55,140
battle of the Harvest Moon with the

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01:01:58,609 --> 01:01:57,119
particle weapons and space weapons and

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01:02:00,530 --> 01:01:58,619
moon bases

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01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:00,540
this is

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01:02:12,410 --> 01:02:07,500
style conspiracy that has become very

1419
01:02:15,230 --> 01:02:12,420
common in some aspects of UFO belief the

1420
01:02:17,569 --> 01:02:15,240
doubles are very similar to conspiracy

1421
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:17,579
theories nowadays where so and so

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01:02:21,950 --> 01:02:20,160
President Biden or something has died

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01:02:23,809 --> 01:02:21,960
and been replaced by a double you see

1424
01:02:26,870 --> 01:02:23,819
these things a lot

1425
01:02:30,049 --> 01:02:26,880
Michael Salah exopolitics expert Michael

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01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:30,059
Salah has cited Dr beader in stories

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01:02:35,930 --> 01:02:33,599
about cloning and leaders being replaced

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01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:35,940
and his secret space program stuff he

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01:02:40,609 --> 01:02:38,640
uses Peter beater as a source you may

1430
01:02:43,190 --> 01:02:40,619
have gotten you know this hour into the

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01:02:46,130 --> 01:02:43,200
show and wondered where are the UFOs in

1432
01:02:48,890 --> 01:02:46,140
this episode apart from the UFO being a

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01:02:52,970 --> 01:02:48,900
cover story for the Soviet particle beam

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01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:52,980
test the answer is that while Dr Peter

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01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:56,400
may not have talked about UFOs the UFO

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01:03:01,309 --> 01:02:58,319
field and conspiracy theories

1437
01:03:03,950 --> 01:03:01,319
surrounding the UFO field have adopted

1438
01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:03,960
some of Dr beader's ideas over the years

1439
01:03:09,770 --> 01:03:07,200
and this doesn't mean that that Dr

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01:03:11,150 --> 01:03:09,780
beader is a UFO researcher he absolutely

1441
01:03:12,349 --> 01:03:11,160
is not

1442
01:03:14,089 --> 01:03:12,359
um but

1443
01:03:15,710 --> 01:03:14,099
I was a little

1444
01:03:17,150 --> 01:03:15,720
I was wondering a little bit whether or

1445
01:03:19,430 --> 01:03:17,160
not I could make this work into a saucer

1446
01:03:21,230 --> 01:03:19,440
Life episode this topic of Dr beater and

1447
01:03:23,329 --> 01:03:21,240
the battle of the Harvest Moon and the

1448
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:23,339
organic robotoids and what is very much

1449
01:03:28,670 --> 01:03:26,160
a political conspiracy theory and then I

1450
01:03:31,370 --> 01:03:28,680
realized two things one yes I could work

1451
01:03:33,770 --> 01:03:31,380
it in and two I it doesn't really matter

1452
01:03:35,390 --> 01:03:33,780
if I can or not it's it's my show and

1453
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:35,400
and we've veered away from sorcery

1454
01:03:40,130 --> 01:03:38,400
topics before but I think Dr Peter is

1455
01:03:43,010 --> 01:03:40,140
interesting because he does set us down

1456
01:03:47,210 --> 01:03:43,020
a course of these these strange ideas

1457
01:03:49,849 --> 01:03:47,220
that become kind of accepted down the

1458
01:03:51,490 --> 01:03:49,859
road secret space weapons

1459
01:03:54,829 --> 01:03:51,500
doubles

1460
01:03:56,569 --> 01:03:54,839
even even the the idea of of the

1461
01:04:00,289 --> 01:03:56,579
reptilians the Sherry Shriner style

1462
01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:00,299
reptilians mimicking our um mimicking

1463
01:04:05,630 --> 01:04:03,119
our leaders that this is these ideas get

1464
01:04:08,020 --> 01:04:05,640
get entrenched and I think it's

1465
01:04:13,849 --> 01:04:08,030
absolutely fascinating

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01:04:18,890 --> 01:04:17,270
thank you for listening remember to send

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01:04:20,690 --> 01:04:18,900
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01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:20,700
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01:04:24,890 --> 01:04:22,799
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01:04:27,230 --> 01:04:24,900
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Simpson J Hanover III and the saucer

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